Astral Travelling is like sport for the spiritual seeker.
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Astral Traveling is not a difficult endeavor, in fact you do it every day. Where the difficulty lies is being conscious that you are doing it. Every time you fall asleep your consciousness turns away from your everyday existence and turns itself toward other spheres of consciousness. The astral spheres is a term to describe the stars and planets. With a bit of literary tweaking we have come to see this term broadened somewhat to include non-physical realms of consciousness.
When a person sleeps the physical body rests. Our physical day to day experience not only includes physical exertion. Thoughts and emotions are constantly animating the level of our exertion. When we sleep our body is rested from both these experiences. Our thoughts and emotions turn to the realm of consciousness that does not need our physical body.
At the point of sleep we become unconscious and for many the only experiences of the sleep state are dreams. Yet there is more to the sleep state than the dream state. There are a myriad of spaces and presences available for you to experience. Use the term visit if you like.
Astral Traveling is a term I reserve for the process of being conscious that you are outside your body and moving. There is another term Space Traveling. This is akin to daydreaming, whereby you are aware you are in your body and move from space to space in the astral plain. With Astral Traveling the center point of your consciousness is not your physical brain, but beyond it.
For a spiritual initiate, one who spends a good part of their time undergoing meditation and contemplation, the ability to astral travel is high on the agenda. To achieve the art means you are able to discern consciousness beyond it's normal level. The standpoint is widened markedly. Also to master astral traveling holds the initiate in good stead for their death.
Sleep and Death have something in common. In both cases consciousness turns away from the physical body. With sleep it's usually for 6 to 8 hours. At death it is permanent. And to be able to retain consciousness while in the sleep state means the initiate is also able to retain consciousness in death. The transition is similar. That point of sleep, the moment you fall asleep, is similar to crossing over into death. Any wonder people panic when they begin to astral travel. The sense of falling is a common experience with Astral Traveling. It's not usually the ascent, but the descent that creates the fear of falling.
To begin to practice Astral Traveling you need to learn how to put your body in a state of deep relaxation and not fall asleep. You want to retain consciousness, that's the key. There is a point where consciousness changes and if your mind grasps too much you will not transition into it.
The deeper your body relaxes there is a point where you can practice lifting your nonphysical self outward. The sensations of etheric arms and legs and head is felt. You're not lifting your body, but the ethereal component. Paradoxically you don't try, you allow it. The more you force the harder it is and if you get frustrated with the practice you're likely to give up and fail before you begin.
When you have managed to get your non physical self out of your body, the key is to stay put. At least in the beginning it is important to stabilize the experience. Be consciousness that your physical body is in the bed but you are not. Hover above your body for longer than you think necessary. If you can master this part you are likely to become an expert traveler.
By the way, the process of putting your physical body into a deep state of relaxation is in itself a major tool for recuperation and could be practiced as an aside to the purpose of astral traveling. Another piece of consciousness you may be interested in, you realize your brain is but an organ through which consciousness is processed. Something for you to ponder.
Happy Traveling.
- Consciousness - What's with the Light Bulb above the head ?
The study of consciousness in science is producing theory, which is what science does until proof is at hand, science = proof. . Yet to measure consciousness using physical instruments may proove fruitless... - Third Eye Meditation
There are many techniques to practice meditation and this is yet another of them. The third eye is your gateway or door to your inner world, your Self, and being more in yourself is a sure way of being... - Relaxation for Health
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Because the experience of astral travelling is non-physical. When astral travelling your consciousness has left the physical body. The most common experience is seeing your body lying on the bed, yet you are not in it but above it. So how can you think if you are not in the body, and therefore not using the brain.
Another common experience is falling in your 'dream' state. Often it is not a dream but the re-entering of your consciousness back into the body.
A friend of mine dreamed she was fighting with her husband, when she woke up, and looked at him sleeping innocently next to her, she still felt angry and wanted to wake him up, and continue fighting with him. On the level that you explained here what does this mean then? Hope it makes sense what I'm trying to say.
That made me laugh. Poor guy was probably oblivious to his wife's experience! LOL.
It's very common for partners, especially sleeping partners, or close partners to share spaces during the night. Bit like carrying on the days activities. It's not totally clear when a dream starts and nightly experiences of a different magnitude begin. Many many people experience working during the night. By work, this is usually spiritual work, emotional revelations etc. Reaching finalisations of issues can happen during sleep.
We do all sorts of things during the night and often some can wake up feeling like they worked an 8 hour shift, and need a good nights rest!!
There is lots and lots to astral worlds, ie spaces we visit during the night.
I've had tons of lucid dreams and became quite good a lucid dreaming at will. Lucid sex is particularly excellent, I have to say! I've always felt that the other people I encounter in dreams are just like me (though usually they arent lucid at the time, I dont think) and I always want to try and find them the next day. I really beleive that would be possible if you could meet another person skilled enough not to wake up as soon as you trigger them into realizing they are actually asleep. It took me AGES to be able to control that in myself!
Thanks Isabella for your comments. I applaud your persistence in becoming skilled in your night travels.
Your sexual experiences during the night are quite common. It's a time when the body is at it's most relaxed (not for everyone in this day and age) and at that time your life force is more fluid. Many women experience orgasm during the night (without a partner), so often wonder who they had sex with when they wake up. The time is generally from 3.00am till dawn. (I often think that's the reason we don't want to get out of bed!)
The more you practice awareness of consciousness during sleep the more you can navigate your way through spaces during the night. This is an awesome experience and many will be green with envy of your abilities.
Go as high as you can and avoid the murky spaces or you'll wake up very tired.
I don't think i have conciousslly been an astral traveler.. I realise it is quite advanced and spirutually it takes much to get to that point.. but to me, in this hub it sounds like any other indulgence. Like a video game or a movie.\
is that not missing the point of spirituality? Maybe not.. and i don't think it is an indulegence.. but it must be available to be an indulgence. Ultimately along the spiritual pth there is much more than astral travel. right?
And what is wrong with indulging! Of course there are all sorts of indulgences some that perhaps are not in your best interest. However, if you had to indulge in something that was totally beneficial, exhilirating, transformative, rejuvenating, awakening, mind expanding - then astral travelling would have to be up there. It's difficult for some, impossible also, and for others it's a simple endeavour. I for one find it difficult and have not mastered the art. I wish for me it was as easy as putting a DVD in a player and pressing Play. Yet we have the ability to do just that if we practice.
I'm not clear on your statement "Is that not missing the point of spirituality?" The essence of your spirit (spirituality) means uncovering everything about you. Including discovering that you are not defined by your physical body. We have discussed consciousness, the ability to cognize beyond the brain which shows when our physical body returns to the earth, our consciousness, soul, spirit remains.
The experience of astral travelling is akin to death experiences. The states our consciousness travels at night are similar spaces. Consciousness beyond the physical is paramount in understanding our Self, our essence.
Astral travelling is only one part of our spiritual journey in the physical arena. And if you were never to experience it then it is not the end of the world.
i pretty much agree with you just being annoying... by missing the point of spirituality i mean that indulging in astral travel is the same as indulging in video games, just at a more evolved level. I guess the oppperative word i use is indulgence, and astral travel isn't always one but I'm sure many people lern the skill and then hault their journey a bit to play in the sky.
I admire those who have the power over mind to be able to do such things, its amazing. But i guess i'm just be annoying and saying.. theres always more don't forget it.
A Pioneer could be a label for those who don't just rest on one experience and say: "Well that's it, I've done it." The explorer in the physical will go where no-one else dares to go and become fulfilled by such a journey The same with the non-physical arena where there are said to be no limits, literally - there are no limitations of the physical body for one - imagine what that is like. I for one could use allot of indulging in this area.
We are essentially more non-physical than physical beings. We use flesh and blood as a vehicle for our consciousness. One cannot overindulge enough in refamiliarising ourselves with our truer nature.
As with all spaces and places, physical or non-physical, it is the use of discernment that helps navigate our way. You can get lost and wander into the murkiest of places, no different to what happens here. Guided by your truth and integrity and aspiration for the highest experience you can have, will lead you to the most glorious of places that demand indulgence.
I agree with Howhigh...
the indulgence of astral travel is a distraction from true spiritual practice...
this is true for the same reason that Buddhists monks are not impressed with people's abilities to see auras and other such things that the 'new age' crowd so cherish... they are distractions...
indulgences such as these only feed the ego... which hinders one from making spiritual progress and achieving enlightenment... you would be wise to abandon the practice of astral travel and focus your efforts more on your meditations...
Well lucky I'm not buddhist then! Astral Travelling may be an indulgence to your tradition but it is not to mine. I trust you can respect that. My tradition is one of awakening. Enlightenment is only one rung on the ladder to our finding the essence of ourselves. One of our main principles is to find vision in it's highest form, to put consciousness into spaces where we don't have consciousness. That is the death space, which is a similar space to when we sleep. Hence astral travelling is paramount to becoming aware of spaces of consciousness.
So I respect your need to tug at my own ability to have wisdom, but rest assured I am quite wise as it is.
I have been doing spiritual practices for 10 years, the majority of that time on a full-time basis.
I don't follow the new age, it does not have the depth I need to ensure my spiritual ambitions are achieved.
I have completed many solo sits of meditation and have reached the state of Atman, unfortunately I cannot do it at will. But that's why practice is necessary.
I was miffed at your post when I first read it, that's why I took several days before replying as to not come from a bad space. I have much to share with my experience of non physical realms, my meditation experiences also. So please don't dismiss me as being shallow because I do not comply with your own set of traditional teachings.
Some indulgences bring joy.
sigh...
astral travel is an illusion of the mind... indulging in such illusions are counter to true spiritual progress...
Poto, you sound no better than a bible basher assuming that your way is the only way. Sorry darling, I do respect what you are doing, but you have absolutely no idea what my path is. Don't assume I'm involved in New Age rhetoric either. So your sigh is something for you to look at, perhaps tolerance or righteousness.
LOL... I don't need to know your path... we all end up in the same place... me thinks you're overly defensive...
as to the bible basher dig... I would like point out that even though I don't agree with Christianity... I do believe that it's good for many people... prayer being a form of meditation that can lead one to find inner peace - there have also been many saintly Christians, and a few that have achieved oneness with the divine through prayer... that much I can respect...
my path is that of wrath... tantric vajrayana... perhaps this makes me seem hostile to you... but I am not...
I merely state what I know to be true from my own study and experiences... I do this because even though you disagree with me and wish to argue, I know my words will sink into your subconsious mind and one day you will realize what I am saying... maybe in your next incarnation ;)
I am not a Christian either. Your truth is just that - your truth. Mine is mine and it can differ. I don't wish to argue, that's what belief in dogma produces - arguement. I become defensive because you of all people, saying you are Buddhist must understand that all people have their own path. Ours will cross in teachings however, my Teacher (and he is a Teacher in the highest sense of the word) is not Buddhist and does not proclaim to be Buddhist yet you assume by your words that I am buddhist because I meditate. This is totally an untruth from my standpoint. I find it difficult to understand why you would say this. According to your teachings, which are your teachings and what you study and align yourself to - this is your understanding of what is being taught. Please don't assume that it is mine. That's what I am saying.
You see, by your posts to my thread you have written in such a way as to accuse me of not being on the right path, telling me not to waste my time as what I am doing is off centre to one who is seeking enlightenment. I am not seeking Nirvana by the way, there is a difference. Nirvana is not for me in this lifetime.
Your use of the 'sigh' at the beginning of your previous post indicates a judgement that felt very condescending.
poto,
"indulgences such as these only feed the ego... which hinders one from making spiritual progress and achieving enlightenment... you would be wise to abandon the practice of astral travel and focus your efforts more on your meditations..."
It does sound like you are accusing Jewels that she is on the wrong path and wasting her time, and believing your way is the only way! Not a demonstration of tolerance and respect for someone else's point of view.
"merely state what I know to be true from my own study and experiences... I do this because even though you disagree with me and wish to argue, I know my words will sink into your subconscious mind and one day you will realize what I am saying... maybe in your next incarnation ;)"
Here you come across as very self-righteous and sarcastic! and hardly a person that benefited from his studies toward enlightenment.
Jewels... you seem to make quite a few assumptions about me... which is interesting considering you know little to nothing about me...
I find it interesting thar you use the word 'belief'... I'd like to make it clear to you that I do not simply believe or have faith in anything spiritual... I know because I have seen and done... thus the difference between you and me... I mentioned study, but I also cleary mentioned experience... something in your mere decade of practive you obviously lack...
also, there is only one truth... the truth... not sure which illusionary world you percieve different truths in, but if you would please rejoin reality it may benefit you...
as to the "written in such a way as to accuse me of not being on the right path, telling me not to waste my time" well, yes I must admit it is selfish of me to try to save you from much suffering as a result of misguided spiritual efforts... shame on me...
you claim to be on a path of awakening... but let me ask you, what awakening can be accompished by the indulgence in illusions? that was a rhetorical question btw...
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Annalene, yes I can be very sarcastic... let me ask you... does my sarcasm make my statements any less true?
as to my way being the only way... sorry you misinterpreated my comments in that way... there are many spiritual paths that may benefit people... as I mentioned previously even Christianty can benefit people...
of course if we are talking about awakenings and true spiritual power, then there is the fast way (the right way) and the slow way filled with errors, illusions and misguided attempts... both will work, the former just works better and faster than the later... think of it as a time saver...
also, I can tell from your comment you've never met a crazy Siddha ;)
Darling, please don't think it is your job to save me. I don't need to be saved by you, or anyone else for that matter. You have now tickled my funny bone to produce a lovely space in which to take your rhetoric, thankyou fellow seeker.
By the way, what do you think will happen to you after you leave your physical body, ie die in this life? I'm interested to know.
I sent you heartness.
you don't really need saving... just a little nudge... somebody had to rattle your cage... don't want that ego of yours getting too big with compliments and adoration from your fans now...
glad I could make you laugh though... you can't see it but I'm grinning as I type this ;)
as for me when I die... this is my last incarnation... so, luckily I don't have to come back here and suffer through any more lifetimes... I would just move on now... but my karma prevents it... as such I still have a few things to work out first... if you're interested in the details it's all laid out in the Tibetan Book of the Dead...
I'm aware of the Tibetan Book of the Dead. I even know the death space, have experienced it, seen it. My cage was well and truly rattled and restructured well before I met you. And is still a work in progress, as is the human experience. I don't have to see what you do, I can feel you. That is part of my training.
As this is your last incarnation, I bid you happy travels in your afterlife wanderings. For your interest, if nothing else, my training includes astral travelling as a way to become familiar with the death space and to navigate through the great journey.
ahh, but here we have it... astral travel is not an exploration of 'death space' because astral travel is all in your own mind...
your spirit never actually leaves your body... the sensation of leaving your body is only an illusion... sometimes combined with psychic phenomenon like remote viewing which can further confuse people as to the true nature of reality... and pull them further away from the stream...
perhaps when your cage was previously rattled it didn't restructure to it's full potential...
You do not understand then my terminology and regard to astral spaces. That which is of the mind is astral. When you die you go into a state that IS astral. I'm not sure what you are expecting to happen to you. If you are expecting Nirvana then you will dissolve back into the non manifested.
That which is in the manifested world, that which is subject to polarity is an ASTRAL space. This is a space that you WILL visit in your transition to whatever you think you are going to. Void of the ordinary mental consciousness, the chitta, States of Consciousness is ASTRAL. There are many levels in Astral worlds.
Please, again I ask you not to presume you know what needs to be restructured. We are not speaking the same language.
If in your language - ie Buddhist teachings you have another word for what I am speaking about that is fine. This is what I know and have experienced. I've been to the tip to where the manifested meets the pre-manifest, and utterly undescribable experience. I know without a shadow of doubt that I will not be dissolving after my death. I will also not be hovering in low astral layers. The astral worlds/levels are many.
Regardless, your path sounds interesting. Who is your teacher? Where do you study?
the astral world you speak of... the world connected to that which is manifest and has polarity is an illusion of samsara... once you are freed from the cycle of samsara you will be able to see this...
you say "This is what I know and have experienced." but I am simply telling you that some of what you think you know and experienced is based on an illusion... a projection of your own thoughts in your mind...
as to my path... I have learned from many, but never had a teacher or guru in this lifetime... in my younger years I sought only power... I had no use for religion... I spent years intensely studying, meditating, and practicing various esoteric forms of yoga in addition to practices like Tai Chi, Pranayama, Kiatsu and other exercises designed to strengthen the Chi... I also studied many forms of occult practices from many cultures around the world in search of the siddhi powers...
it was during the practice of a combination of esoteric forms of yoga that I first achieved samadhi and was able to peek at the true nature of reality... at the time much was made clear to me... including the fact that I was not ready to move on yet... so I ceased my practice until such a time as my karma permits me to continue it...
I have not yet achieved enlightenment, which is probably pretty obvious from my writtings... only that I have seen enough to know... I was actually not seeking enlightenment at the time, just the siddhi powers... but sometimes our experiences evolve us...
Regardless of whether the astral is an illusion, the physical journey is only one rung on the cosmological ladder. We have many vehicles in which we travel, the physical body is but one. Once our cycle of lives is complete on this rung of the ladder then there are other levels to transcend. These levels are, in your language, also illusion as they are in the manifested creation.
The experiences are paradoxical in essence, thwart with obstacles and, as you put it subject to illusion and delusion. Such is the human standpoint delving into and fathoming non physical realms. Yet the fact remains that upon leaving this physical body at the end of this particular life cycle - I am not talking manvantaras, but this particular incarnation, then it is a journey through astral realms that will be experienced. You're intention is to dissolve back into the pre-manifested world, that which is not subject to polarity, I will not have that grace in this life.
It must be difficult for you not having a teacher to assist you, or is that your preference?
true... however, even in the other higher levels of samsara which you desire to be reborn into in your next incarnation there still exists suffering... for all life is suffering...
and in time all composite things come apart... such is the nature of impermanent things...
what do you think happens after a handful of lifetimes in higher levels? you have to move on at some point...
it's not simply dissolving into nothingness... it's more like rejoining the source... entering the stream... from which all came and to which all returns eventually...
also, at this point not having a teacher is of little concern to me... as I said I have learned from many... and have been fortunate enough to have known some extraordinary people...
well, either way I wish you luck... and may you find enlightenment in the higher levels during your next incarnation ;)
Enlightenment is very possible for me in this life, I don't have to be in higher levels of the cosmological ladder to achieve this.
We all move on at some point, spiritual evolution involves levels and levels, layers and layers. Physical existence is only one level.
You will be dissolving in a sense. you will not have the same reference point of reflection. Re-joining the stream, you become the stream. There is no Self.
I sincerely wish you well in your path, to reach Nirvana, or rejoin the source from this standpoint is a mammoth feat. You will be among the elite as a result of your endeavours.
exactly... enlightenment is achievable within a single lifetime... for all people this is possible... unfortunately few seem to actually achieve it...
it's true there is no self... that is also an illusion of samsara...
and thank you, but I have no desire to be elite... I am simply near the end of my journey... I don't see it as a mammoth feat... just a natural progression of life...
Sometimes I'm able to be more conscious during my dreams, but I have yet to have an out of body experience. Well, that's not entirely true - once I was fully aware of having about half of my arm out of my body before I woke up one time in the middle of the night.
Someday I wish to revisit my working with The Monroe Institute, so that I can consciously will an out of body experience.
Practice Practice Practice. Thats the catchcry of my teacher! I know I get really lazy with this one cause sleep overtakes the effort, and I give up. Ahhh, the bliss of sleep. But I'm with you, it's very much a desired feat to will the OBE. Thanks for visiting my hub.
Nice hub. I suppose dreams in your sleep that eventually come to pass or serve as a warning sign is also astral travelling though they manifest themselves in the real world.
Astral Travelling is quite specific. It's the ability to remain conscious while not in the physical body, and to know you are outside your body. With dreams, whilst some people are conscious they are dreaming, ie lucid dreaming, usually these states play out in the subconscious. Dreams for most are recalled once awake.
What you described is in line with prophetic dreams, which are a 'type' of dream. In the knowledge of spaces of consciousness, dreams and astral travelling are different.
Jewels, what do you know about cd's to help you astral travel? The ones where you need stereo head phones... brain wave technology. Any info on that?
love & light, p
I've heard of the bwt but haven't tried it and so can't really give an opinion. I have used a tape/cd where the whole body is put into a very loose state that helps retain consciousness while in the sleep state. Still, it's not easy, takes discipline to not fall into the unconscious sleep state.
A few things about using headphones is that if there is a pressure around your head and/or ears it could impede the process. Have a go anyway. Then if you do fall asleep with them on and rollover, you're likely to wake up because of them!
Hey Jewels,
Loved this hub. I am fascinated by these things. I have yet to consciously experience, or at least recollect haveing one of these astral travels, but I pray for one all the time! I'll keep trying...
You know that self-described "psychic" Sylvia Browne? Well I hardly believe everything she says, but in one of her books she explains that one way to know if you've been astral travelling is when you begin to dream that you are falling, and when you wake up you fall off the bed, still feeling that intense gravitational pull. This has happened to me on numerous occasions! I wonder if it is infact due to astral travel and the brain's conscious perception of what is going on.
What do you think about this?
missesMask
Well forget about falling off the bed, it's totally not necessary to know you've been astral travelling. We do it every night, we are just not conscious of it, trick is to become conscious. What's happening is that when you fall asleep your physical body and life force stays on the bed and your consciousness, together wiith some life force goes off into the non-phyiscal. That sensation of falling is when you become conscious, or partly conscious of the descent back into the body. That's primarily what the mechanics of it are. That falling sensation is so common and is a feared sensation until you get used to it, and to get used to it means being conscious of it. So you are totally right, it's the brain's conscious perception of what is going on. I remember when I first became conscious of the falling and the descent. I was soooo scared by what was happening, freaked me out. I was a scardie cat for sure.
There is a free E book available that helps with conscious perception of non physical things, it's an experiential book. It maybe what you are looking for. I won't do the spam thing so if you are interested let me know and I'll give you the link via email.
I'm excited. I am definitely going to try this.
Way to go Tom. I hope it works for you and let me know how you get on.
Good hub! I used to try this but it never worked. I do at times get that falling sensation and slam back into my body. Unpleasant to say the least. My dad is supposedly quite adapt at these procedures, but is very into the "dark arts"...lol. My wife is of native american heritage and is quite intune with nature. How she ended up with my scientific over analizing self I'll never know. Opposites attract right? She travels the winds is how she puts it. Me, I don't even like flying. Keep up the great work and have fun.
Some do it with ease - I'm not one of them unfortunately. I love how your wife puts this "travels the winds' - that is so what it is like. And I'd love to meet your dad, he sounds interesting. I over analyze as well, but it helps with discernment of all these experiences. So I don't see it as a problem - well not all the time!
Good hub. Didn't like the fact someone has to slam our beliefs. I do believe there is one god but we all have our own lives and beliefs. My parents were very devote. But frowned on my going on my own way and finding another church but no church has the answers except what they want us to have. I've practiced Wiccan and am a healer. Though I'd like to be able to discipline myself to get my just moved into home straightened out and the grand room drywalled and shelves put up so I can find my books and such.
GREAT Hub. :)
I like the way you write, it is upbeat and keeps the reader engaged.
Here's one I wrote on the subject: http://hubpages.com/hub/AstralProjectionExperience
Jewels,
I went through a stage where I was obsessed with astral travel. I listened to tapes, and you are right about the headphones and the distractions of them
I can only recall two times where I was conscious of my travel outside of my body.
The first time was about 5 or 6 years ago. My recollection is vague but there are things I remember about it. I was at the foot of my bed, my wife asleep. I remember falling down to the carpeted floor a few feet from the bed as if I were being held down by an invisible force. I also remember looking back at the bed and trying to scream for help. My voice didn't work and nothing would come out other than the intentions. I also remember my wife sitting up and floating over to me pulling me back into the bed and it was over with. She doesn't remember a thing however. I also don't remember if I saw my body or not, I didn't feel like I was in control either, it was a little unsettling.
The last time was a few months ago. I had a colonoscopy as a regular check up. Just before I woke up from the procedure I had a dream, or it seemed. I remember looking over at the bed I was laying in and the doctor's back was facing me, he was positioned of course "down there" and there was someone laying on the bed facing away with a sheet or something around their body. After I was awake and clear minded I realized I watched the procedure or part of it. It was really kind of like a dream though and I don't remember most of the details
Jeff
I like obsessed people having a go at these things. It takes obsession to succeed for most. I can relate to what you're saying, my first experience of astral traveling, though I didn't know it was AT at the time, was terror, I was falling (back into my body) and my voice wouldn't work. It happened twice in a week and it was very unsettling. Didn't have control either. The key to getting good at it is to not move but observe. So if you're floating around the ceiling, don't go anywhere, just observe it. You can stabilize and then start visiting the neighbors :D
Interesting hub. A few years ago, I had what I thought was a dream... maybe not. I "dreamed" I was floating near the ceiling. It seemed so real. I thought I was possessed or something and became terrified. Suddenly, my late Aunt, who was deeply spiritual and said she had psychic visions, was there. She was telling me to pray. I got into a kneeling position while still floating, and as I began to pray I began to slowly descend. When I "saw" my bed, I seemed to "wake up". I was still about a foot above my bed, still in a kneeling position! I could have sworn I was "awake" for the last foot or so of the descent! I convinced myself It was all a dream. I wonder If it was astral travel.
What you're describing uszealot is very much like astral traveling. If you can do it once, you could have another go.
Hay been reading your comments and a couple of your hubs. You make a lot of sense in a down to earth, way out there kind of way. "a good way out there kind of way" Does most people experience astral travel when younger and not tied down in beliefs? only able to remember the event after waking up? I've not had any of these experiences since my youth. I do however have precognitive dreams concerning my personal life almost constantly. Just wanted to let ya know that I'm going to try to go and (as early described) ride the winds.
I think that you are saying to not chase that bus, just relax on the bench and let it happen?? Any way thanks for being you and sharing with us. It's bed time so I'll go see what I see.
Thanks for the compliment Jerami. I really do try and bridge knowledge so it doesn't seem so 'out there'. For me it's 'in here' (points to body), and not weird at all.
I can remember Astral Traveling when I was young (under 11/12). I didn't know what it was at the time, but now I know that's what I was doing. The majority of people lose the ability and some pick it up through practice. It's not so much beliefs,though that is a factor. It's that kids turn their thoughts to the outer world. Once this happens there are more and more thoughts, more engaged in their physicality and more heavier in disposition in general.
And yes, ride the bus don't chase it. Good phrase Jerami!
About 30 years ago I made a conscious effort to astral travel in an attempt to meet with a friend. What I experienced was perhaps "just" a dream, but interesting nonetheless.
Thanks for this, it is a lot to digest but totally fascinating.
Glad you got something from this Mike.
Such a lot of comments to scroll down before I could post!
Thank you for the information; I have been reading all I can on this recently and trying to make sense of it all. The universe is so huge and so much of it is completely unknown to us. Amazing.
So much to learn and the knowledge seems endless. Thanks for commenting Happyontheinside.
To me, this "brand of Dreaming" called, Astral Movement, should be described as "Day Dreaming" ... though on a more eleborate scale ... us, seeing and doing, what we want to see, and doing what we want to do ...
It is possible ... but in Reality ... Because, we can neither control our Sleep, nor, our Dreams... hence, Astral Projections are essentially of our Imaginings, which have more to do with our Wishings, than Reality.
And so are drugs ... hallucinogens, that induce an altered state of mind.
If you must play with your Menatl Faculties ... Try Mathematics, or some other creative activity, such as Painting, or model aircraft making.
Shahid, I can definitely see how you could come to that conclusion. Until you've experienced these extraordinary states it's very difficult to fathom they are possible. When you have an out of body experience there is a clear separation of the physical body and the perception of the ordinary mind is changed as a result. Day dreaming is put in the category of 'space traveling', separate from astral traveling. Space traveling is done within the physical body and it is the mind that alters and experiences other states. Astral Traveling is the clear separation.
I am not an advocate of using hallucinogens to alter states of the mind. They eventually limit and prevent the expansion of altered states and end up messing with the mind in a way that can create psychotic episodes.
Interestingly you talk about mathematics. Among the students I associate with, many are mathematicians, doctors, pilots and people of substantial professions. Expansion of consciousness beyond the kindergarten phase is an amazing pursuit. It is common however, to be defined as fools and the like. Until you yourself have the tangible experiences it's difficult to fathom the profound depth of awakening that accompanies expansion of consciousness.
I'm pleased you contributed to this discussion as you voice what many think from the standpoint of opinion without experience.
What do you think about UFOs ... There's a talk that ets are attracted to people who meditate a lot ... There's also a talk that they kickstarted our civilisations and we saw them as gods
Shiva, they are really not my thing and I don't buy into the Scientology line. I am sure we are not alone - how can we be in such a vast universe. But then define what an unidentified flying object is. In the expansion of consciousness, once you have seen something and identified it, then it's no longer a UFO. Many experiences are had via meditation, thankfully within the school I do my practices with, a methodical mapping of consciousness has been put into place.
In regard to your last comment, I think of Zeus when fathoming the influence of the gods on our civilization. As mythical as they are, the pictures are lovely!
I have had a few accidental experiences with astral projection. Lat year i traveled through the dream space unintentionally and visited an childhood friend whom i have not had any contact with for 15 years.
In the dream i was not conscious that it was him for some time, as i was just observing the scene nor was i aware that i had traveled .
When i became aware that it was my old friend, my eyes opened and i was blinded by blue light. I had to shield my eyes from it and it scared me. But i knew i had to proceed that this was important.
As he came back into focus, i felt like i was invading his dream space or that was somehow crossed paths . I felt embarrassed that i had intruded on his private moment. But that blue light or aura was so intense and inviting i did not want to leave it.
I recall making a decision to leave. As that thought was coming into being i descended into his space a little, and i said goodbye.
In the early hours of the morning i awoke talking loudly in my sleep. My husband asked me what was wrong with me, said i was crying and talking loud . When i was aware i was awake i started to recall my dream and told him. He of course listened but did not understand. Needless to say that dream stayed with me.
A few months later my friend contacted me on facebook. We had friendly chit chat, talking about the old days. we talked a few more times and i felt compelled to tell him about my dream. He reacted well. We chalked it up to "hey that's cool, you visited me in your dreams" and had a good laugh.
A few weeks ago my dear old friend passed away. He died unexpectedly, he was only 34 years old. The autopsy said he had an enlarged heart and pneumonia. The combination was fatal. He was unaware he had either condition.
I am obviously morning the loss of my old friend. What bothers me most is that dream!
Why? Why did i visit him? Why did i have to see? Was i supposed to know he had a potentially fatal heart condition, and warn him?
I am feeling a great deal of guilt. And i am haunted by the images in that dream.
Any insights on to what all this means?
I'm not sure why you should be feeling guilt. The experience you had was beautiful and in that state you experienced there is no such thing as an invasion of privacy. Your friend said "hey that's cool, you visited me in your dreams." You could be feeling sorrow and regret, a melancholy for the space itself. Often these experiences will trigger feelings and emotions that in themselves make no sense. For many it is because the beauty of those spaces brings a memory of something lost - something extraordinary and precious. Death of loved ones also triggers that memory. It sounds like your friend was in good hands and maybe the whole 'purpose' of that dream was for you to see something outside the normal human experience which is what you did see.
Thank you for the taking the time to reply. Your answer has help to ease my mind.
Lets teach this to kids, adults...it will teach we are really spirit energy, and rid the world of war, famine, selfishness and greed.
Go Hal! By all means let the children know.
I dont who to ask but I have just learned about this Astral Travelling and I think this is what has been happening to me since I can remember when I was 4 years old my mum told me that I was rushed to hospital because I had stopped breathing.
This has made me scared to sleep from as far as I can remember and it feels like I go somewhere where I have a totally different life and know a whole new set of people but my memory of this place goes moments after walking back into my room and into myself this place has 3 moons.
Each experience starts with a massive vibration and feels like I cannot move and more often than not a weird male voice says "Your coming with me" followed by a calm and gentle female voice saying "Leave him alone go away" and this voice is the person who I normally go with but I can only remember her as a person with brown hair but its no one i have ever met before.
I also see this red dot when I close my eyes with some sort of swirly black fan shaped tunnel. How do I stop this? This happens every single night or whenever I start to fall asleep. I dont want to go to a doctor for fear of sounding like I have mental health problem because I know that I dont. I have also seen things that have come true such as incidents that have happened and I think this is why it has made me a really good police officer but scares me, I live alone now and I have to sleep with the lights on and I hear these very high pitched noises which reads 62 decibels on a sound reader but no one else hears it.
Hi Alex. Certainly a lot going on for you. I also get the high pitched sounds but I am wondering how you were able to measure it?
When you close your eyes, through the third eye spaces you find many tunnels, swirls etc. It's a matter of moving through and not getting stuck.
Vibration is more to do with the body, once you hone your 'skills', refine the process, it can be more pleasurable and you maintain a better level of consciousness.
If you are willing, befriend me via hubpages and send a personal message. That way I can answer more of your questions. I need to get more context to give you decent answers for your experiences.
I dream that I'm in astral projection.And I hate it every time, when I wake up to find that I was dreaming.But every time, its me who gets conscious that my physical body is still sleeping and I wake up immediately.
Well it must be you who becomes conscious. The thing is to retain consciousness while seeing your physical body on the bed while you are hovering over it. It takes practice to stabilize the experience. Your physical body will remain resting in the bed. It is your consciousness that lifts off. That's why it's called Astral travelling. It's your 'Astral Body' that is moving. You do have the sensation that you have a physical body, it's not the same heavy physicality, but more a sheath of it. The fear can be what jolts you awake also. The fact is you are conscious to a large degree of the lifting and descending. If you can practice that you will be adept at it in no time. Just hover over your body and practice that until you are really good at it. Then you can move away and explore. Push through the fear by feeling it and stabilizing regardless of it.
Hi, this is a nice Hub!
I find that the best tool to facilitate lucid project is to manipulate energy daily. There are some exercises to increase the vibration level of your holosoma as well as to expand your energetic field. they help with lucid projections out of the physical body. If you are interested I'll be glad to share. Also, have you read Projectiology by Dr. Waldo Vieira? Everything you need to know about astral projection. The book is over 1200 pages long, lots of nice illustrations.
May the best happens for all
May the best happen for you also Teredrade.
spacebull 4 years ago
I had a few lucid dreams when I was a kid, it was loads of fun. I wanted to ask you - you said "And those who have experienced Astral Travelling come to realise that thoughts and consciousness are separate from the physical brain." and my question is - Why do they come to realize that and how?